Hello there,
I've an Ancestor, James Brown crop up in the 1871 Census as a Barman. His Mother Anastasia Hall is there too as a 'visitor!' The address is 355 Park Rd, Toxteth. Joseph Smith is the 'Licensed Victualler' born in Brazil (I think!) It looks like next door is a Greengrocer (357- 359)- name possible George Pickles. Would love to know what the pub was called, any thoughts of where to search are most welcome!
Mx
For some reason your post…
For some reason your post hasn't appeared. Please could you post again in reply to this one.
I've not yet come across a…
I've not yet come across a name for the premises?
Below is a snippet from the Liverpool Daily Post, August 12, 1868, Title, Public Houses in Liverpool, applications for victuallers license.
I suspect, bh. is for Beer house, as far as I know not all beer houses had an official title or was a named premises?
The Electoral Rolls for 355 Park Rd record the property as house, 1870+/- 5 years, some properties with duel purpose are recorded as so, for example, house and shop, etc. Public Houses are also recorded elsewhere and the occupant of 45 Dove Street was recorded as a Beer House Keeper. The 1881 Liverpool Directory, 355 has the owner as a Fruiterer. Sight of a 1871 Directory would help, Liverpool Library?
I forgot there was a copy…
I forgot there was a copy available,
1871 Gore's,
I wonder?
1871 55 Park Rd not recorded…
1871
55 Park Rd not recorded.
1871, 355 Park Rd Dingle…
1871,
355 Park Rd
Dingle Hotel
Have you got this far yet?…
Have you got this far yet? family connection?
I was going to say that very…
I was going to say that very often a licenced victualler may have simply sold beer etc. from his front room, even selling through his window. But it may be that Bertie has solved this one.
Oh my goodness. I am SO very…
Oh my goodness. I am SO very sorry for ignoring everyone!!! I absolutely hadn't seen these replies for some reason, though I've been logged in!! Everyone must think I'm really rude! I wonder if because I had trouble posting it (Mary I did notice you said it hadn't shown up originally) if there's been some glitch in the system?
Your information is so useful and kind. I have been sifting through it. Since my post I am now wobbly about my security over the Anastasia line and so am working to prove / disprove this. It's amazing how many Anastasia's could actually exist! However, Bertieones found certificate (which I didn't have!) has confirmed a Margaret Jane Hall, which I know exists... It's one of those mysteries I think I'll dip in and out of for now until I have more clear time. I have been taken over by sifting through McCarthy relatives and that's giving me headaches!
Again - to all of you who replied, I am so sorry! However, huge thanks for all the time and extremely useful and vital information. It is so much appreciated.
Best wishes
Mx