I have a DNA match that leads me back to William Horrocks b c 1731 in Wigan ?. He married Mary Whittle in 1747 Wigan. (Lancs OPC) They are me great x 5 grandparents. The link has their child Mary b 1759 Wigan marrying Thomas Austin in 1813 also in Wigan and having children after this when she was 54 to 60 years old. I feel there must be a generation missed out. ie Mary that married Thomas Austin must have been Williams Granddaughter, Can any one help me in this?
Of William's older sons my great x 4 married and had a child , Mary, in 1782, but she married William Draper in 1802 and unless William died c 1810 and she remarried as a widow , then this is unlikely. There was another son Robert b 1750, but I don't have a marriage for him.
Please can anyone help me with this mystery? Thanks Lynne
Lynne, Trying to narrow…
Lynne,
Trying to narrow it down I think the Mary Horrocks you seek had a brother John Horrocks who possibly married Betty Jackson, 1810, Wigan.
Baptism: 9 Jul 1815 St John RC, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Margt. Austin - Daughter of Thos. Austin & Mary
Born: 6 Jul 1815
Godparents: John Derbyshire; Ann Derbyshire
Register: Baptisms 1805 - 1822, Page 178
Source: Original register at LRO
Baptism: 29 Jul 1818 St John RC, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Willm. Austin - Son of Thos. Austin & Mary
Born: 27 Jul 1818
Godparents: John Horrox; Betty Horrox
Register: Baptisms 1805 - 1822, Page 234
Source: Original register at LRO
Baptism: 10 Aug 1819 St John RC, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Mary Austin - Daughter of Thos. Austin
Born: 7 Aug 1819
Godparents: John Horrox; Mary Derbishire
Notes: [Mother's name not recorded]
Register: Baptisms 1805 - 1822, Page 264
Source: Original register at LRO
Baptism: 16 Jun 1822 St John RC, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Austin - Son of Thos. Austin & Mary (formerly Horrox)
Born: 14 Jun 1822
Godparents: Jas. Edmondson; Elizab. Derbyshire
Register: Baptisms 1805 - 1822, Page 305
Source: Original register at LRO
Baptism: 11 Nov 1810 St John RC, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Mary Horrocks - Daughter of John Horrocks & Betty
Born: 8 Nov 1810
Godparents: Geo. Bibby; Alice Bibby
Register: Baptisms 1805 - 1822, Page 101
Source: Original register at LRO
Baptism: 21 Dec 1812 St John RC, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Thos. Horrox - Son of John Horrox & Betty
Born: 21 Dec 1812
Godparents: Edw. Aspinall; Mary Horrox
Register: Baptisms 1805 - 1822, Page 135
Source: Original register at LRO
Baptism: 5 Mar 1815 St John RC, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Willm. Horrox - Son of John Horrox & Betty
Born: 3 Mar 1815
Godparents: Thos. Aspinall; Rachael Wignal
Register: Baptisms 1805 - 1822, Page 171
Source: Original register at LRO
Baptism: 23 Aug 1818 St John RC, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Peter Horrox - Son of John Horrox & Betty
Born: 22 Aug 1818
Godparents: John Apinall; Betty Boardman
Register: Baptisms 1805 - 1822, Page 236
Source: Original register at LRO
These two look likely,…
These two look likely,
Baptism: 27 Oct 1782 St John RC, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Mary Horrock - Daughter of Willm. Horrock & Mary (formerly Bibby)
Godparents: Thos. Bibby, GFr.; Margt. Bibby, GMr.
Baptised by: Jno. Chamberlain
Register: Baptisms 1782 - 1805, Page 22
Baptism: 14 Dec 1788 St John RC, Wigan, Lancashire, England
John Horrocks - Son of William Horrocks & Mary
Godparents: Mich. Morley; Mary Horrocks
Baptised by: Jno. Chamberlain
Register: Baptisms 1782 - 1805, Page 64
Source: Original register at Lancashire Archives
Marriage: 7 Jan 1774 All…
Marriage: 7 Jan 1774 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Horrocks - Ince
Mary Bibby - (X), Wigan
Witness: Gerd. Bancks; James Moss
Married by Banns by: T. Whitehead
Register: Marriages 1754 - 1775, Page 199
Source: LDS Film 1885674
Son of Wm Horrocks/Mary…
Son of Wm Horrocks/Mary Whittle.
Baptism: 16 Jan 1753 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Willm. Horrocks - Son of William Horrocks & Mary
Abode: Aspull
Register: Baptisms 1721 - 1754
"Baptism: 27 Oct 1782 St…
"Baptism: 27 Oct 1782 St John RC, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Mary Horrock - Daughter of Willm. Horrock & Mary (formerly Bibby)
Godparents: Thos. Bibby, GFr.; Margt. Bibby, GMr.
Baptised by: Jno. Chamberlain
Register: Baptisms 1782 - 1805, Page 22"
This is the Mary I have as marrying William Draper in 1802 Wigan. It is just possible that he died around 1810 and she remarried Thomas Austin. The record does not say if she was a widow or not. This Mary and William Draper had the last child (that I can find)William Draper 1811 Wigan. Do you think this is a possibility??
Marriage: 26 Jul 1802 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Draper - (X), Dalton
Mary Horrocks - (X), Dalton
Witness: Wm. Bancks; Grace Kayes, (X)
Married by Banns by: John Gibson
Register: Marriages 1790 - 1803, Page 311, Entry 1386
Source: LDS Film 1885689
Forgot to say that my link to the family is through William Draper and Mary Horrocks' daughter Ellen b 1804 and who marries Henry Manchester in 1821
Thanks for your help.
Lynne, Wouldn't she have…
Lynne,
Wouldn't she have married Thomas Austin as Mary Draper?
Oh now, who's a clever fella…
Oh now, who's a clever fella!! I had forgotten that . So here I am stuck again. The connection I have with the Horrocks family is through Ellen Draper. Back to the drawing board