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Greenhalgh family

By mitches1829 |
General Genealogy

Hi All, 

Appreciate if any one can help eith Eliza and William Greenhalgh who I have not been able to trace.

Eliza Jane Wilson was born in 1882 in Debigshire, Wales to parents George and margaret Wilson. Eliza married William Greenhalgh 1903 Warrington, Lancashire. They had three sons, Harold, Stanley and Frank Greenhalgh.

Eliza Jane Greenhalgh (or Jane) appears on the 1911 census living at 65 Albion street, Burnley, with their eldest two sons.  I believe that william filled in the census and signed the back of the document, but didn't list himself on the front. Living at the same address are the eldest two boys Harold and Stanley.

Issue -- Harold Greenhalgh b. 1906 Blackburn, Lancashire

Stanley Greenhalgh b. 1910 Fylde, Lancashire

Frank Greenhalgh b. feb 1912 Burnley, Lancashire. 

All three children arrived in Australia per the ship Commonwealth, departing Liverpool March 1915, unaccompanied.

This is where I can't find any further information on Eliza Jane and William Greenhalgh, and wonder what may have happened to them. 

Also curious to find out why the three boys were sent to Australia, and were unaccompanied.  

Harold married my cousin Thelma Idalia Stoker in 1927, Auburn NSW, and I do know what happened to this family from here. 

All three boys lived full and long lives in Australia, married and had families of their own.

I am more than happy to provide any information of their lives here in Australia to interested family members, and  would appreciate any suggestions you might offer regarding the whereabouts of William and Eliza Greenhalgh.

 

 

We could do with the father's age and occupation, have you the marriage certificate?

 

I know one of the lads at his marriage offered Fish Merchant, but how reliable is that?

 

The ship departed from London for Oz, perhaps that suggests the children were already down south.

 

If the mother died between 1912 and 1915 and depending which name was registered, nearest for last known place of residency,

 

Eliza Greenhalgh, aged 38, 1913, Burnley East, some years out.

 

Knowing the Father's details will help looking for any military service and the possibility he was KIA.  

 

Thanks Bert, 

I always appreciate your input. 

Elizabeth (Eliza) Wilson was 21 yo and William Greenhalgh was 25yo at timeof their marriage in 1903.

Unfortunately a marriage certificate from the Uk takes approx. 5 months to get to australia, under normal circumstances without Covid. So I will be waiting a while for that to arrive. The GRO does not offer a scanned image option. But happy to pay someone who's willing. 

Eliza Greenhalgh 1913, Burnley East sounds promising, but she would have only been 31 years. 

Can you tell me where that info came from, I have not been able to find anything further than the birth of their son Frank, 1912 in Burnley. 

I am wondering if the children were in an orphanage, or work house at that time. But I am not sure how to locate such records. Your advise would be appreciated. 

thanks again Bert, much appreciated. 

 

 

There are a couple of Probate entries which might fit. First is for Eliza Jane Greenhalgh of 4 Norfolk Place, Halifax Yorks widow died 23 Dec 1921. Probate London 23 Feb 1922 to James Garner Greenhalgh Secondary School Headmaster Effects £4169 10s 6d.  If this is her James Garner would probably have to be a relative of William (brother perhaps) as he would be too old (headmaster in 1922 means well over 30 years of age I suggest) to be a son of Jane and William.

Second one is for an Elizabeth Jane Greenhalgh of 116 Booth St Tottington Lancs Widow died 4 Jan 1932 at 45 Hilda Ave Tottington. Probate Manchester 23 Feb 1932 to Elizabeth Ann Greenhalgh spinster Effects £2579 2s 5d. Elizabeth Ann possibly a daughter or sister in law?

I haven't found the GRO death registratios for either of them yet.

Thanks Andy, 

I will look into these further and see if I can't locate a death registration for these. 

It is always   handy to have a fresh pair of eyes to look at things. 

 

There is a William Greenhalgh b 30 Jan 1882, Engineer Charge Hand, Married, recorded as a patient in St James's Hospital Leeds in the 1939 Register.

Eliza Greenhalgh 1913, Burnley East sounds promising, but she would have only been 31 years. 

Can you tell me where that info came from, I have not been able to find anything further than the birth of their son Frank, 1912 in Burnley.

GRO,

Sharene,

 

I assume you know from the 1911 census signature, his full name was John William Greenhalgh, though he never used his full name to marry. The marriage certificate will as you know inform us of his age, occupation and father's name.

If we can then find his family, we may be able to see if the children were with family members in the London area, etc.

It seems strange that if the children were orphaned they should end up down South when Burnley and surrounding areas had, Homes, Orphanages, etc, to accommodate.

 

How do you know he was 25 years old?

 

If you would like the marriage cert, I will get it for you.