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Ile De France Ships Manifest 1944

By MaryA |
General Genealogy

Hi all,

A friend in Canada has been looking for the manifest for her entry into Canada in 1944.  I have found the Index to Alien Arrivals at Canadian Atlantic and Pacific Seaports, 1904-1944 for both her and her mother, no real information given except the ages, 21 for mother and "5" for daughter, however I believe it should have been five months,  but haven't had any luck with finding the manifest.  Wondering if anybody else might have any luck in searching, below is the details given and what she already has.

The information that I am searching for is the ships manifest for the Ille de France sailed from the forth of Clyde, Scotland, on October 22 1944.

The ship sailed, unescorted, across the Atlantic Ocean arriving in Halifax Nova Scotia, some six days later.

The ship had war brides and their children on board, I was, as six months old, one of those children. 

My mother’s name was Vera Rose Dalrymple nee Nicholson. My name was June Anita Dalrymple.
I have searched many different places, including Pier 21 here in Halifax to no avail. The only thing found was my return sailing to Southampton, England in March 1947.

Hi all,

A friend in Canada has been looking for the manifest for her entry into Canada in 1944.  I have found the Index to Alien Arrivals at Canadian Atlantic and Pacific Seaports, 1904-1944 for both her and her mother, no real information given except the ages, 21 for mother and "5" for daughter, however I believe it should have been five months,  but haven't had any luck with finding the manifest.  Wondering if anybody else might have any luck in searching, below is the details given and what she already has.

The information that I am searching for is the ships manifest for the Ille de France sailed from the forth of Clyde, Scotland, on October 22 1944.

The ship sailed, unescorted, across the Atlantic Ocean arriving in Halifax Nova Scotia, some six days later.

The ship had war brides and their children on board, I was, as six months old, one of those children. 

My mother’s name was Vera Rose Dalrymple nee Nicholson. My name was June Anita Dalrymple.
I have searched many different places, including Pier 21 here in Halifax to no avail. The only thing found was my return sailing to Southampton, England in March 1947.

Looking at The National Archives, The Ile De France arrived on the Clyde on 11th October, arrived at Halifax on 22nd October and then on to New York and she arrived on 25th October. Maybe as the final destination was New York then searching for that record rather than Nova Scotia may help. 

Good luck, there does not seem to be a great deal of information on Ancestry, FMP or My Heritage.

No joy anywhere else. Wiki has details of the ship being converted to a prison ship in 1943 but seems to be a gap between then and 1947 when the return to UK manifest had the details.

I'm sure June's destination was Canada, but the ship's eventual one was New York. After that the next port of call was Glasgow again.

Hi Mary, 

It's doubtful if any passenger manifest for the Ille de France is on any of the commercial ancestry sites, and not likely to list passengers by full name if there is a newspaper record. However, all is not lost. Here is a link in Canada that will help your friend find the information she requires and the process involved to obtain a copy of her record.

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/…

Good luck

Hi Mary, John and Louis.

 I thank you for helping me with this. 
Mary found our names somewhere,however to get the ships manifest I suspect I have to go through the Canadian government , who to be honest, have not been very helpful to date. 

Getting  this information would conclude my search for my mother’s journey through life.

 Sadly, her marriage to my birth father, Ralph Dalrymple ( Sargent with the West Nova Scotia regiment). only survived three years and mother and I returned to England in March 1947, though I don’t know the ships name.

June Feswick

 

Hi June

Glad we were able to help a little. The link I posted outlines the procedure to follow to obtain your record. There are a few hoops to jump through which is typical of Government bureaucracy in any country, but the result should be worth it. The information you are seeking is still restricted by the Canadian government so will not be online.

The ship that you returned on was the 'Aquitania' which arrived at Southampton on the 25th March, 1947, from Halifax, Nova Scotia. It was a Cunard ship from the White Star Line. There is more information on the record which I will not post here.

The record is from:- Incoming Passenger Lists for UK and Ireland, 1878-1960

Hope this helps

Thank you so much Louis, we do appreciate information from our members who have more experience in fields that we don't, I knew I was right in suggesting June check out our forum, you never fail.

I'm not sure if she has an appropriate subs but I'll make sure she gets the fuller information.

Once again thanks you.