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Mary Percivall d.o.b. 1770(?)

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Gwebb1
Mary Percivall d.o.b. 1770(?)

Hi all.

I am really getting nowhere with this search.  Mary Percivall married Edward Davies (variously described as a 'brewer' and a 'labourer') at St Peter's on 26th April 1789 and that is the only date I can find for her!

Mary and Edward had 7 children between 1790 and 1804, all being baptised at St Nicholas's.  From 1790 they lived in Preston Street (previous addresses being Dale Street, Fontenoy Streer and Webster Street.

Mary was widowed in 1803, a few months before the birth of her last child, son Edward.

Can anyone help me find a likely birth or death for her, please?

Kind regards,

Glen

 

John O

Lancs OPC has this, seems to be the only one in Liverpool 20 years either side of 1770:

Baptism: 13 Nov 1780 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Mary Percival - Daughter of James Percival
    Born: 15 Oct 1780
    Abode: Bachelor Street
    Occupation: Book keeper
    Baptised by: John Shewell, Curate; Bromf. Foulkes, Church Warden
    Register: Baptisms 1780, Page 63, Entry 677
    Source: LDS Film 93833

Names - Orrett, Orritt, Ross, McCabe, Keeley, Bullen, White, Leatham, McKeon, Bilsbarrow, Yates, Sennett, Sinnett, Traynor, Ashton

Gwebb1

Morning, John.  Thanks for looking but this can't be the right one as she married in 1789!

G

MaryA
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I think you may have to consider other areas than Liverpool, although that's not to say that the records are complete for Liverpool.

There are baptisms in both Manchester, Prestwich and Haslingden that would fit for date, difficult to confirm of course.

There are lots of burial records for a Mary Davies post 1804, do you know where her husband is buried and that might give a clue as to where she is also? 

MaryA

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Gwebb1

Mary's husband, Edward Davies. was buried in the parish of St John on 17th Nov 1803 - I guess this means he was buried in St John's Cemetery?  His last child (baptised Edward) was born in March 1804 and baptised at St Nicholas's on 4th April.  Son's baptism record and husband's burial record give the abode as Preston Street.

Two possible deaths for Mary caught my eye: one in June 1832; record states Mary was a widow, likely d.o.b 1762 and abode: Zeal Street.  Buried at St John's.

                                                            one in October 1822 - record again states Mary is a widow; likely d.o.b. 1765 and abode: Brownlow Hill.  Buried at St Mark's.

Does this get me any further?

I also wondered if Mary re-married, given that she had a young family when she was widowed.  I found a record for a Mary Davies (widow) who married a William Humphreys (cordwainer) at St Nicholas in Nov 1807 but again the trail went cold.

Beginning to wonder if this line of my research may end with Mary and Edward!

Glen

 

MaryA
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Gut feeling would say the Mary buried in St Johns, if there were a grave number it might even have clinched it, but I don't think that happens with a churchyard the same as a cemetery.

I think it might be a back burner job and one day something may pop up and give another clue, the sort of thing does happen quite unexpectedly.

MaryA

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Gwebb1

I think you are probably right, Mary.  Her daughter (Catherine Develin after her marriage) was buried in St John's in August 1832 - would have been interesting to have made a link.  The daughter lived in Spitalfields when she died and I can't for the life of me remember where I eventually found this was (I asked about it on the forum years ago!) so don't know if it was anywhere near Zeal Street.

As you so rightly say, something may turn up in the future.

G

bertieone

1790, Spital Fields.

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Bert

bertieone

Two possible deaths for Mary caught my eye: one in June 1832; record states Mary was a widow, likely d.o.b 1762 and abode: Zeal Street.  Buried at St John's.

 Glen,

From a post on the old forum, it was thought to be Leeds Street and not Zeal St.

Bert

Gwebb1

My goodness - I seem to have been going round in circles since 2016!  I've spent some time this evening looking back at my posts on the old forum (thanks for the reminder, Bert!).  

Because I was at a different point in my research, I didn't join up all the dots back then.  For instance, I hadn't really made the connection with Preston Street so clearly marked on the Enumerator's map that Mary posted, and the birth of Mary Davies's children.  Nor did I appreciate how close Leeds Street (the name is so clear on that other record) was to Preston Street and Spital Fields, which turned out to have links with 2 generations of the Davies family.  Certainly, I was probably too hasty to rule out the Mary who died in Leeds Street (either in David Lewis Hospital or otherwise).

I probably don't have enough to say definitely that I have found the death of my ancestor but I will certainly keep these notes at the top of the pile this time!

Thanks again, folks, for your help and observations.

Glen 

MaryA
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From a post on the old forum, it was thought to be Leeds Street and not Zeal St.

Bert

That would fit quite well for location wouldn't it. 

MaryA

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